Shadowdancers

Post by **Rary** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 8:28 am

Ice storm isn't that bad unless you're low level.

Musekaze · Post by **Musekaze** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 8:54 am

grab the ice ammy and the piercing belt and ice storm becomes useless.

Rafael · Post by **Rafael** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 10:03 am

And I'll still dmg your helth for over 40 dmg with empowered *cough*

Xianio · Post by **Xianio** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 3:00 pm

It's blunt damage and yes you'll still take plenty of damage. It won't be the 80 damage you would take normally but it will still be sizeable.

Musekaze · Post by **Musekaze** » Sat Aug 11, 2007 12:08 pm

lets see, -20 ammy, -10 armor (or is it 20 i forgot >_<), -10 boots, -5 bludg/-5 ice elem mythril belt, thats 45 dmg left, so its still pretty nasty. thats why some killer reflex is needed,

T3hRedMage · Post by **T3hRedMage** » Sat Aug 11, 2007 8:28 pm

Max ice storm does 68 damage? 20 cold resistance, 5 bludg resistance... that's about all you can do.

Post by **Rary** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 10:10 am

T3hRedMage wrote:Max ice storm does 68 damage? 20 cold resistance, 5 bludg resistance... that's about all you can do.

If it has a reflex save and your SD. Then the 68 turns into a 0 cold and 5 bludgeoning resist.

Musekaze · Post by **Musekaze** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 10:42 am

yeah but Emp. ice storm gets some pretty nice DC. 28 or so i think. So lets see, going Pure flat out 20 dex halfling at 1, and at 20 that gives you 25 base, +3 Dex Belt, +3 Dex bracers, +5 Ref rings x2, makes for some pretty nice reflex, so its not that hard to just take the bludg dmg.

Xianio · Post by **Xianio** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 6:09 pm

Icestorm has no save. That's why it's useful against sneakers. It should stay that way though. You could also always put on the 75% reduction from ice damage and a few points of DR. That cuts it WAY down.

A complaint about SD"s though.

Why is concentration used as the duration on Summon Shadow? SD"s don't get concentration as a class skill. Secondly, why is Summon Shadow's duration the short one? It's single use while the shadow evade has 3 uses per day. If anything Summon Shadow should have the long duration....and I think making it a bit longer wouldn't hurt

isiana · Post by **isiana** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 7:17 pm

Ice storm is modified to have a reflex save, for the bludgeoning and ice damage.

Rafael · Post by **Rafael** » Tue Aug 14, 2007 8:05 am

Lol? it has no save and I recently was making a mage... So even if it was modified it doesn't work then.

Musekaze · Post by **Musekaze** » Tue Aug 14, 2007 4:09 pm

yes it does. Spine Snapper dodges ice storm all the time.

Rafael · Post by **Rafael** » Tue Aug 14, 2007 5:30 pm

Don't you mean she dodges Cone of Cold? I never seen someone making a save vs Rainbow's Ice Storm and I used it lattely vs your archer and Hatchets a few days ago.Ice strm is the spell where ice spikes are raining right on your head

T3hRedMage · Post by **T3hRedMage** » Tue Aug 14, 2007 9:57 pm

Ice Storm has never had a save. The only roll it does is for damage.

Xianio · Post by **Xianio** » Tue Aug 14, 2007 10:14 pm

I tested this last night. There is no save on icestorm. Also max icestorm does 48 ice damage and 18 blunt damage. That means that a level 10 shadowdancer will take 8 blunt and 24 ice damage before gear. Which can be as low as 3 blunt and 0 ice damage (although more likely 4 ice damage).

Hehe ya "that's" a scary spell for a full SD now 3-7 damage OOOOOOoooOOOO!