Cantrips

Protoss119 · Post by **Protoss119** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 1:42 pm

With changes like that, the cantrips look like L1 spells. Cantrips are sort of an early game/last resort thing to be used when all your spells are wasted and that fighter over there's at like 27 HP. If he gets hit by a 1d4+1/1d3 cantrip and has resistances/is close to kicking your arse, the fighter's got a chance. If he gets hit by a 2d4+2 cantrip, resistances or not, he could be screwed, but it depends. If he gets hit by a 2d4+2x1.5 cantrip, he's screwed. As fighters are already weak enough...

I don't even use Maximized anyway when I could get empowered. :P

Lord Mephisto · Post by **Lord Mephisto** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 3:53 pm

Protoss119 wrote:With changes like that, the cantrips look like L1 spells. Cantrips are sort of an early game/last resort thing to be used when all your spells are wasted and that fighter over there's at like 27 HP. If he gets hit by a 1d4+1/1d3 cantrip and has resistances/is close to kicking your donkey, the fighter's got a chance. If he gets hit by a 2d4+2 cantrip, resistances or not, he could be screwed, but it depends. If he gets hit by a 2d4+2x1.5 cantrip, he's screwed. As fighters are already weak enough...

I don't even use Maximized anyway when I could get empowered.

This didn't make any sense to me at all.

Lord Mephisto · Post by **Lord Mephisto** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 3:55 pm

Xianio wrote: I say leave cantrips as they are, unless you want to do all the coding for them then I suppose this discussion should continue.

I would gladly code spells.

The question is if it is wanted?

Protoss119 · Post by **Protoss119** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 8:11 pm

<_<...

Makes perfect sense to me, and I'm half-idiot. Don't take this the wrong way, but are you suggesting, in fact, that you are an idiot?

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Post by **Rary** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 8:10 am

On the bioware forums, they said that light or light embraced items give a hide penalty. I don't know if this is true but maybe you guys do. If not, adding a - to hide on the light spell would be nice.

Lord Mephisto · Post by **Lord Mephisto** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 8:27 am

Rary wrote:On the bioware forums, they said that light or light embraced items give a hide penalty. I don't know if this is true but maybe you guys do. If not, adding a - to hide on the light spell would be nice.

I assume you mean a penalty to hide for all creatures within the area? Not only for the caster?

Post by **Rary** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 8:35 am

For the caster mainly since the pinpoint of the light is coming from you.

Casas · Post by **Casas** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 3:40 pm

It's for the target - no one in the area sufferes me thinks. Having it do the area affect becomes problematic since there are no heatbeat scripts in place.

You could have permanent -hide +spot inplace until death if light were changed to these specifications listed.

Changing light was a good idea, but I don't think it's worth the downfalls.