Shadowdancers

Casas · Post by **Casas** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 6:01 pm

There are no mind immune rods.

AntiChristMofo · Post by **AntiChristMofo** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 6:51 pm

i think what muse is trying to say is that rary can always put one in for us

Musekaze · Post by **Musekaze** » Sat Mar 03, 2007 2:53 pm

is there not a rod of clarity? last time i checked there was

Casas · Post by **Casas** » Sat Mar 03, 2007 3:48 pm

Clarity is mind purge. It removes all bad effects. If you're counting on 1 turn mind immunity as a solution to anything, you're a bit off.

Musekaze · Post by **Musekaze** » Sat Mar 03, 2007 6:34 pm

uhhhhhh, besides, whats teh point of mind purge then? you cant cast or use clarity if your dazed or something.

Protoss119 · Post by **Protoss119** » Sat Mar 03, 2007 9:10 pm

It's meant for another guy, though, thus you can cast it on a guy who is dazed.

Musekaze · Post by **Musekaze** » Sun Mar 04, 2007 9:40 am

well there IS equipment that gives mind immune, and tehres always will rings.

Casas · Post by **Casas** » Sun Mar 04, 2007 12:07 pm

Yes, you can.

Post by **Rary** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 9:57 am

Shadow Daze Specifics: 1/day the character may inflict an illusionary daze upon a target. This daze lasts for 5 rounds (30 seconds).

DC of the Shadow Daze is 10 + Dexterity modifier + Shadowdancer level.
So were looking at 32 DC possible max.
Will save negates it.

So from that perspective I don't see that much power at all in it.

A shadowdancer going dex is lacking in serious damage, so I hope he can kill the player in 30 seconds. Remember that shadowdancers don't get sneaks and a level 10 rogue only gets 5d6.

The 32 DC is about norm for most DC's on the game right now. I wouldn't mind lowering the norm for everything to 30 though.

Summon Shadow: Not sure why it was mentioned.

Shadow Evade:

Class Level --- Damage Reduction ------ Concealment --- AC Bonus
___________________________________________________________
--4 ---------------------- 5/ +1 -------------------- 5% ------------ + 1
--6 ---------------------- 5/ +2 ------------------- 10% ----------- + 2
--8 --------------------- 10/ +2 ------------------- 15% ----------- + 3
--10 ------------------- 10/ +3 ------------------- 20% ----------- + 4

As you notice the damage reduction is useless, since the people against you will have better weapons. The concealment is nice, AC bonus is decent, but its considered a dodge bonus.

The rest of the stuff they get, rogues get as well.
I'm thinking a Barb/SD would be nicer to tell ya the truth.

Protoss119 · Post by **Protoss119** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 12:06 pm

Archers will get their butts handed back to them by Shadow Evade. Of course, that's only because their archers.

You don't see any power in a DC of 32?!

Post by **Rary** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 2:35 pm

Not when there is alot of specials and spells out there that get the same DC's. I mean a harper can kill you if you fail a 35 DC. Instantly and area as well. Rogues can hold person trap you with a 30ish DC for alot longer.

Musekaze · Post by **Musekaze** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 3:30 pm

yeah, and theres always will equipment to boost things. i think thats a good idea rary. get some testers