Static Statistic Buffs

[LittleLostThief]

Would it be terrible to make buffs to your stats the same? I'm talking about Bulls Strength, Cats Grace, ect.

I think they should all give +4 like in D&D 3.5.

What I don't like right now about it is watching people who "need" the +5 buff rest 100 times trying to get it and that other buff they need.

Problems? Maximize would suck for it then, but who really uses a +3 slot for +5 to a stat when you can do empowered and get more? So... uh... ideas?

[T3hRedMage]

I use maximized spell for clerics.. Nice to get Strength, Dex, Con, Wisdom, Charisma maxed on an uneven stat.

[Musekaze]

i was thinking about this. make bulls cats etc give the same +4 or +5 every time.

[T3hRedMage]

I don't like either idea. Making it static makes metamagic less attractive. People constantly resting to atleast get bullstrength +5 are people who care less wh at they roll on everything else.

[Protoss119]

Hence why Dredoc just slaps on a Cat's Grace and goes off to <die>. By the same token, I try to get some saves gear for him (Ring of Resist +# and Cloak of Forti +#).

That is, if I get what Red Mage is trying to say.

And yes, Metamagic is indeed awesome. My fave is Empower Spell for obvious reasons (Empowered NEB and Empowered Spell Mantle). So yeah, if they want maxed Bull's Strength or whatever, they should get Maximize. We shouldn't have to step in and do that for them.

[Rary]

Or they can give +4 and if maximized gives +5?

[Protoss119]

That would mean Empowered would get +6 (4x1.5), which is a big no-no.

[LittleLostThief]

Empowered give +6 right now, or +7 maybe? Not sure how the game does the math on that one. And I really can't believe that any of you are using a spell slot three levels higher to get +5 instead of +6.

[Casas]

Empowered give 3~7. I use empowered bulls/owls all the time on my clerics/mages.