Dual Wield Epic Paladin

Casas · Post by **Casas** » Wed Jul 04, 2007 11:01 am

Trying to make an effective dual wield pally. Thinking 24 Pally/6 Fighter/10 CoT Human stats: 14, 15, 10, 14, 8, 14, 15 (Well rounded doesn't excel at anything)

At first I started him with rapier and any off hand weapon he could find, but.. off hand AB was a bit short that way as was it's damage. So I picked two kukris for their crit range, but not their base damage.

Feats are marked by - and +1 for class/racial feat. F: fighter. P: Paladin. CoT: Duh. X: Undecided feat

Ending stats: 18 STR, 26 CHA

1 - P +1 Human : Exotic, WF Kukri
2 F +1 Ambidex
3 - F +1 TWF, X
4 F
5 F +1 EWS Kukri
6 - F X
7 P
8 CoT
9 - CoT +1 PA, ICrit
10 CoT
11 CoT +1 ITWF
12 - P Divine Might
13 CoT
14 P
15 - P Divine Shield
16 P
17 P
18 - P Extra Smiting
19 P
20 P
21 - F +1 EWF, EWS
22 P
23 P
24 - P GCHA I
25 P
26 P
27 - P GCHA II
28 P
29 P
30 - P GCHA III
31 CoT +1 Epic Prowess
32 CoT
33 - CoT +1 GSTR I, X
34 CoT
35 CoT +1
36 - P GSTR II
37 P
38 P
39 - P +1 Great Smite I, X
40 P

The X's could be:

ESF Discipline, Extra Turning, Kd (Can't have Ikd), BF, Toughness, Great Smiting II, ESF Taunt, Armor Skin. Sure there are some more choices I left out.. Just can't fill in the X's. Suggestions?

His AC fully decked will be dependent on whether he goes taunt or tumble cross classes and armor skin or not. 11 base + 20 dodge + 15 harmor + 7 deflection + 7 natural = 60 + 2 Armor Skin + 4 Tumble = 66 tops.

AB is about 62, 76 on smites. Damage is about 51 with a +7 weapon (main hand).

Xianio · Post by **Xianio** » Wed Jul 04, 2007 8:07 pm

What server is this on? Can't very well offer suggestions without knowing the options.

Casas · Post by **Casas** » Wed Jul 04, 2007 11:11 pm

3T. They have a very good sense of balance. Although SR is favored way to much, the rest is pretty well done. Dev Crit is banned, but it's obviously not for this build.

I would love to scrap Fighter for RDD, but then I'd have to scrap CoT for sorc or bard. :-/

Think I like Pal/Sorc/RDD better. Cuts 5 feats I have to take, and I lose 2 feats from specialization. So 7 feats less. I gain a total of 9 feats from 6 fighter and 10 CoT, with the 7 feats that I don't have/get and the +2 feats I get from RDD way.. it's actually a better build.

It only does 2 less damage for more AC and abilities with the same AB (actually more with Truestrike). Think I'm going RDD way, only a few less saves.. about 4-4-3 less saves.

Xianio · Post by **Xianio** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 6:04 pm

Is 3T an arena or what? Sorry I don't know the server xD

Casas · Post by **Casas** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 9:33 am

PW Action. Going RDD, it turns out MUCH better. Fighter only gave +2 to both hands damage rolls.

Xianio · Post by **Xianio** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 1:15 pm

Ya RDD is so much better it's insane. I assume you're being smart and taking it in epic so that you increase your ab rather then damaging it. WHat's your ac? In PvM AC is way more important then damage. But with divine shield and +4 from RDD you should more then enough ac to handle just about anything.

T3hRedMage · Post by **T3hRedMage** » Sat Jul 07, 2007 12:30 am

Paladin/Sorcerer/ RDD?

Casas · Post by **Casas** » Sat Jul 07, 2007 9:38 am

Yep. 20 Pally pre-epic (insanely difficult to level up) for dual wielding kukris and taking 1 sorc, then 10 RDD then back to pally. Will end up with 22 STR and 28 CHA. More AC, more abilities, not as much saves, but not much less either.

The damage won't miss, the AB is quiet high. And the damage isn't resistible since most is divine/magical.

T3hRedMage · Post by **T3hRedMage** » Sat Jul 07, 2007 1:25 pm

I think you should do 8 sorcerer. Only 2 BAB less.

My favorite epic RDD build would have to be the same, except it's more sorcerer.

22 Sorcerer, 8 Paladin, 10 RDD. Automatic Still-Spell, Dev. Crit.

Casas · Post by **Casas** » Sat Jul 07, 2007 6:06 pm

Dev Crit is banned. 8 Sorc means 3 less feats. :-/ Need those three feats for prowess, and smiting power. Paladins get a feat every 3 levels. 29 = +3 feats.

BAB is the same for all epic levels. 30 BAB is the max.

Xianio · Post by **Xianio** » Sat Jul 07, 2007 11:09 pm

I'd say lose the smiting power and gain keen and flame weapon. For losing something which can only be used 3 times when you have dozens of enemies it doesn't deserve massive focus. The extra damage for little overall damage to your ab (1 ab Oooo) is much more worth it.

T3hRedMage · Post by **T3hRedMage** » Sun Jul 08, 2007 1:24 am

Imp Invis, Stoneskin would be nice in 3T, I think. Not too many enchantments floating around.

Casas · Post by **Casas** » Sun Jul 08, 2007 10:05 am

Weapon buffs do not stack there. Only one is allowed at one time. Large party server though, so you will almost always have mages/clerics around to flame you.

I was hesitant about taking more sorc because I would be easily dispellable with only 8 sorc.. 29 Pal is harder to dispel then that.

3 Smites helps against bosses and pvp.

Musekaze · Post by **Musekaze** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 9:06 am

3t= Three towns? gah i hate that server....

but this sounds like an interesting build. i might try it sometime.