Stance and DD's

Xianio · Post by **Xianio** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 11:36 pm

Well we all know how freakin' useless Defensive Stance is as everyone just takes two steps away and waits patiently for the DD to come to them.

So I have a few suggestions, although I'd wager a few are simply impossible due to hardcoding but I'll suggest all the same.

1) Remove the inability to move and make it act like Rage. Make it last a little longer as it's a PrC class and you have fewer uses.

2) Make it unlimited use at level 6 or 10...undecided but currently we see none so it might be a good idea to give it earlier. Also if we could, could we make it an action which doesn't take time to activate. The second you click it it happens. In DnD what you would call a "Move action" I suppose. I don't know if that requires haks but I've seen it done before.

3) Give them like 5xDD levels of it. I don't like this idea very much but I suppose it could work as well.

4) Make Stance do something different. Kinda like what we've done with shadow evade or summon shadow.

A95 · Post by **A95** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 11:48 pm

Yea, I find when I play pearl against other melees they just run around him or wait for him to come, its frustrating

Post by **Rary** » Thu Aug 23, 2007 1:00 pm

It can't be changed. Only modifying their class so they get rage instead would allow something close to that.

A95 · Post by **A95** » Thu Aug 23, 2007 1:09 pm

You could give DDs a special item that gives them rage but with the DD stats instead.

isiana · Post by **isiana** » Thu Aug 23, 2007 1:18 pm

How about you give them like a ring with the stance stats.

Post by **Rary** » Thu Aug 23, 2007 1:32 pm

That can be possible, yes.

I don't know what they get, but if the bonus can be applied to a ring, then definitely yes.

A95 · Post by **A95** » Thu Aug 23, 2007 1:38 pm

If you give them a ring it won't work because their AC is natural AC + not deflection.

Post by **Rary** » Thu Aug 23, 2007 1:55 pm

Ya, that could be a problem.

Casas · Post by **Casas** » Thu Aug 23, 2007 6:15 pm

Why is this even here? DD's receive an extra 100 bonus HP from the lever.. that's to make up for their crappy ability.

Xianio · Post by **Xianio** » Thu Aug 23, 2007 6:20 pm

Cuz 100 hp isn't even close to the same as +4 ac and +4 con. We all know that 100 hp isn't half as useful as +4 ac.

Casas · Post by **Casas** » Thu Aug 23, 2007 6:22 pm

100 HP is +5 CON modifier.. that's quite a bit. Granted can't be healed, but still it's a lot of HP. Normally, if someone won't fight me in stance, I just wait till I die.. and bring Ozon to annoy the living hell out of them.

They wanna be peckers, I can too. Muwaha

T3hRedMage · Post by **T3hRedMage** » Thu Aug 23, 2007 6:48 pm

That's big talk for someone who doesn't even play anymore.

A95 · Post by **A95** » Thu Aug 23, 2007 6:49 pm

I still say give them an item that has unlimited uses per day of +4 ac +2 con +2 str +2 saves.

Casas · Post by **Casas** » Thu Aug 23, 2007 7:59 pm

I play almost everyday. Just cause you don't see me, don't mean I ain't there.

LittleLostThief · Post by **LittleLostThief** » Thu Aug 23, 2007 9:36 pm

Sometimes you run from DD's just like you run from TS. If TS doesn't give them a +100% chance to hit me, I don't run. If DD AC doesn't make me have to roll a 20 just to hit, I don't run from it. I know I'm not everybody... but even if they do run from you in DD stance, you can just stand there and wait for them to come back. Eventually, if they want to play, they'll come.