Monk Speed + Ranged Weapons

Xianio · Post by **Xianio** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 2:03 pm

If you have monk levels and are using a ranged weapon you lose your monk speed.

This generally isn't a huge problem but it could be. I mean pure monks with ranged weapons always prove a problem for melees as really they don't even need to hide as they can just run around away from them shooting away. If monk speed was removed when using a ranged weapon it would certainly prevent such a problem.

Rafael · Post by **Rafael** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 4:44 pm

But monks do crappy dmg with ranged waepons, at least nothing that can't be resisted, they also loose apr with that the ab ain't the greatest as well.

Xianio · Post by **Xianio** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 5:16 pm

Half true. Pure monks can't do to much damage....unless they're strength based with throwing axes. Also one doesn't need to do a ton of damage to wittle away at someone who can't catch them...ever.

Also my old monk AA did around 14-15 damage a hit. Definitely not a bad amount for ranged with no sneak. One could easily tweak a monk for decent ranged damage while maintaining 90% of its speed.

Casas · Post by **Casas** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 10:16 pm

They don't have any AC, and lose deflect arrows. They can't win vs any other ranged foe (even a ranger). My barbarian kills them as well with throwing axes.

Xianio · Post by **Xianio** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 1:03 am

You could tweak one for ac. I mean how much less ac does a 12 monk/1 wiz/7 AA have? 2 at most? Maybe a little more. Really you could do it easily, just it's boring as 15ish damage to kill someone with 300 hp is -boring-.

But even pure monks have plenty of AC and with +5 darts enough damage to cause some significant softening before killing a person.

Casas · Post by **Casas** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 9:42 am

Diamond Amulet. +5 darts aren't enchantment anymore.

Xianio · Post by **Xianio** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 10:12 am

Not everyone can wear that diamond amulet.

Casas · Post by **Casas** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 12:39 pm

Everyone can wear -5 pierce though. Combined with regen, make it impossible for monk like that to kill you, I would wager.

STR monk, that's another story.. but their AC is much lower.

Post by **Rary** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 8:17 am

Xianio wrote:Not everyone can wear that diamond amulet.

Barbarians and fighters can and those are the only ones that the archer monk is going after. Any sneak or caster will get the archer monk very well.

Players have tried the archer monk and realized its not as good as it seems. It works against players that don't want to stop them. They can't sneak, low AC or low AB, low saves since they try to boost AC or AB.