Dex WM

[Sebastien]

Muahaha......this one of mine is a nice build I love it. Here goes. Again this char fully maximizes in ability at around 18-20.

Skill used: Concentration, spot, discipline, intimidate (4). If you wish you can swap around 14 INT for 14 CON. but I don't think you can maimize all skills then.*When you see ths star, it indicates that this feat isn't necessary, and you may choose another if you want.

Elf
Starting Stats
STR 10
DEX 20
CON 12
INT 14
WIS 8
CHA 8

1 Fighter Blind-Fight, Dodge
2 Fighter Expertise
3 Fighter Weapon Finesse
4 Fighter Mobility, +DEX
5 Fighter
6 Fighter Spring Attack, WF (rapier)
7 Fighter
8 Fighter Whirlwind Attack, +DEX
9 Weapon Master Improved critical (rapier), Weapon of choice (rapier)
10 Weapon Master
11 Weapon Master
12 Weapon Master Knockdown, +DEX
13 Weapon Master
14 Weapon Master
15 Weapon Master, Improved Knockdown*
16 Rogue +DEX
17 Rogue
18 Fighter Weapon Specialization (rapier)
19 Rogue (maximize tumble, spot)
20 Fighter +DEX

Ending Stats
STR 10
DEX 25
CON 12
INT 14
WIS 8
CHA 8


Hve fun

[Terpeh]

Doesnt tis also give you a good ammount of ac due to the high dex?

[Sebastien]

Ya...and nice ab I like this build. I should make a highbie one heh

[Heavy_Metal-2000]

KD on an AC build seems kinda useless i think id take 1 less rogue lvl u still have 1d6 sneaks and evasion take an extra fighter lvl and get improved wep focus or w/e it is that adds dmg to wep of choice... and now that expertise is changed around rules/build wise u can rogue to tumble dump anyways... were doomed.

[Heavy_Metal-2000]

here i go again on the typo's thats kd is useless on a DEX build not AC build and u "Can't" rogue for tumble dump any more since expertise make u illegal as far as i know

[Musekaze]

expertise is actually legalized. just not imp. expertise.

[T3hRedMage]

I have no input. I can't make out his posts. x_X Any of them.

[Heavy_Metal-2000]

as far as the journal says u cant have expertise if u have non 1 BAB per lvl classes... IE ranger BG fighter barb etc... or at least thats how i understood it.

(gonna go check that right now actually)

and sry if my posts are that hard to read Red. I knew wat i was thinking when i posted.

I think there was a mistranslation between my brain and my fingers when i was typing.

[Heavy_Metal-2000]

yup checked it out and the journal says expertise is now for 1 BAB per lvl classes only.
fighter, barb, CoT, paladin, ranger, DD mighta missed one but w/e.

Journal also says that taking lvls in classes other than those mentioned above will make your character illegal.. If this is correct then its Bye Bye tumble dump on WM or any build wishing to use expertise really.

[Rafael]

all wm/rogues got jailed, for sure so this build is dead, dammit Rary stop killing off the builds There is nothing fancy left to make exept various sneakers

[T3hRedMage]

No, there are plenty of things to make. You just won't have expertise for no reason and draw out fights for 3-4 more minutes for the 5% chance of rolling a 20 to hit.

[Rafael]

about alll fancy wm/somethings are gone. I had about 7 ideas containg a WM and a non high bab class alll are gone, so spare me that.

[Heavy_Metal-2000]

can't we just leave expertise for WM fancy builds and just make it auto jail the person when they activate it. 10 mins and then when they return if they try it again kick them out of the server for 10 mins or just keep re jailing them til they get in in there skulls??

[A95]

I've suggested making expertise do absolutely nothing, or just give the -5 ab penalty for trying to use it.

[T3hRedMage]

We can't modify feats like that. And the ONLY WM's builds on the server were either

1.) WM/ Rogue ( Majority. )
2.) Paladin/ WM ( Three? )
3.) Barbarian/ WM ( One? )

If Rogues were just not allowed, people would take bard. I like the expertise rule. It's a retarded feat anyway. The classes that have it, should have it and the classes that dont, shouldn't. You can get 5 AC somewhere else.