Shadowdancers

Post by **Rary** » Mon Jul 30, 2007 11:36 am

Anyone play with these guys yet?

Weak?
Not so fun?

No one has really done one yet so I was wondering.

Casas · Post by **Casas** » Mon Jul 30, 2007 12:11 pm

I made a build for it, but never followed it through. Don't really see their effectiveness w/o hips. A few levels for more AC a bit of DR and conceal over duration? Meh..

T3hRedMage · Post by **T3hRedMage** » Mon Jul 30, 2007 11:00 pm

Yeah.. I can't even think of a build to make them decent. ;/

Post by **Rary** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 7:56 am

I don't even know a good theme to put them in.

Casas · Post by **Casas** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 2:35 pm

Increased natural hide/ms per level?

Terpeh · Post by **Terpeh** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 3:30 pm

Wait, or give them HIPS, but when they go into stealth, they have a great disadvantage. Like 100% vulnrability to something. Just an idea.

Post by **Rary** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 4:21 pm

Torm wrote:Wait, or give them HIPS, but when they go into stealth, they have a great disadvantage. Like 100% vulnrability to something. Just an idea.

I see that going well. People can't take the CSing as is.

Musekaze · Post by **Musekaze** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 8:44 pm

well otehr servers give a penalty like - 50 Hide for one round after unstealthing with HiPS or if you have HiPS you cant hide until 10 seconds after unstealthing.....just some ideas.

LittleLostThief · Post by **LittleLostThief** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 9:09 pm

Well if you put a timer on HIPS like 10 seconds, then it's really pointless. Then you're worse off than a normal corner sneaker who if played correctly, can hide all the time anyway.

Maybe give the abilities that we are letting them use have a permanent duration? Now, I don't play shadowdancers much elsewhere and I really don't know what all they get. But why not a permanent 25% conceal, some dodge AC, and DR somewhere between belt and ammy?

T3hRedMage · Post by **T3hRedMage** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 9:14 pm

Belts and amulets are too good of slots to waste on a prestige class. Make it a cloak, boots, rings or clothing.

Xianio · Post by **Xianio** » Wed Aug 01, 2007 6:14 am

Why not just leave the class banned? It's a useless class without HIPS and nobody EVER takes more then 1 level in it anyway so I'd say we cut our losses and cut this class.

Post by **Rary** » Wed Aug 01, 2007 7:47 am

Well the shadow whatever its called was up'd. It gives conceal, ac, and DR. i haven't seen someone play them, maybe they are good, who knows.

Improving shadow evade might just bring them up to par.

isiana · Post by **isiana** » Wed Aug 01, 2007 7:48 am

Or you could just make some shadowdancer-only items.

Post by **Rary** » Wed Aug 01, 2007 7:49 am

isiana wrote:Or you could just make some shadowdancer-only items.

Thats the other way around it.

Terpeh · Post by **Terpeh** » Wed Aug 01, 2007 7:01 pm

Ooookayy.....downloaded the .2da files and made meself a build. Not much, 7 Rogue, 1 Shadowdancer. Planning to get all 10 levels. I'll try to level it in my own free time and I'll post what I think.