Champion of Torm

Post by **Rary** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 11:03 am

These guys are on the list to balance out after shifters.

Casas · Post by **Casas** » Mon Mar 12, 2007 12:12 pm

Thanks.

AntiChristMofo · Post by **AntiChristMofo** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 5:43 pm

why are people saying CoT arnt powerfull lol

casas just made a pally/cot and it whoops donkey

same with any char except bards if made right they can kick some serious bootey and the reason why i say except bards is because all you really need to do is boost up disc cson perform and spellcraft then get cursed song and the rest of the song feat with weapon focus and ect

Musekaze · Post by **Musekaze** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 5:52 pm

which is usually why bards mutil with fighter. it takes alot of feats to makea good bard.

Casas · Post by **Casas** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 2:02 am

Mine's 2 CoT.. it's basically a paladin with nothing gained from CoT yet. The feats CoT has access to pre-epic stink.. you'll have most all of them before you can become CoT.

AntiChristMofo · Post by **AntiChristMofo** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 7:29 am

yer but if you make a wiz or sorc /cot your saves are going to be very high or maybe a cleric someone might want to try that extra +5 to all saves and do alot you could make a good anti mage pure meele fighter with one of those if you made it right

Casas · Post by **Casas** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 11:14 am

That's because.. he's paladin lol.

My save are only +1.

We discussed how the +5 saves are irrelevant.. they cannot help any build over the loss of power from the 10 Lvs of CoT. It is a gain from saves, but the total gain, is negative from the lack of gaining anything else useful.

AntiChristMofo · Post by **AntiChristMofo** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 8:52 pm

but somtimes +5 saves is all you need for someone to kill you instantly or hold your or somthing you might lose alot of good spells with that but rary should make some speal gear for CoT just to give them that extra kick maybe extra spell slots gear for bard - clerics - wiz - sorcs/CoT or somthing like that and maybe make some gear with a feat in so you can work around that feat with your CoT char

can CoT's use spellcraft i think it is? (every 5 pionts gives you a +1 to all saves or somthing)

Rafael · Post by **Rafael** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 7:25 am

CoT have spot so they ain't plain useless.

Casas · Post by **Casas** » Sat Mar 17, 2007 8:26 pm

We've been over this, if they weren't useless, why aren't there any around?

AntiChristMofo · Post by **AntiChristMofo** » Sun Mar 18, 2007 4:04 am

i have one but i gave it abunch of useless feats im thinking about remaking it it was going to be 9pally 1 barb 10 CoT

Musekaze · Post by **Musekaze** » Sun Mar 18, 2007 8:10 am

yeah, i was thinking about making a 15 CHA barb/cot/bg. str based with just that touch of CHA. im still working out the levels of each though. im thinking like 7barb/7CoT/6 BG

AntiChristMofo · Post by **AntiChristMofo** » Sun Mar 18, 2007 9:06 am

lol take out the barb and use pally instead CHA based tho lvl 6 CoT 7BG 7pally if its cha based dive wrath lasts longer giving you extra attack rolls and saves then you would have do pump up your wis to like 15 then 13 dex and int rest on str i was thinking about making that ages ago but just never gotten round to it